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the fire alarm over video of president obama speaking as a law student at harvard. video at a press conference where obama says nothing news worthy. that was explosive tape, not at all. last month it was the drudge report, which means the romney campaign, it was them again dousing themselves in gasoline and pulling the fire alarm as what was hyped as outrageous video of president obama saying he believes in redistribution. specifically it was that he believes essentially in the progressive tax code that we have had in this country for a time period that's more easily measured in centuries than in individual years. again, not exactly a bomb shell. now they are dousing themselves in gasoline and hitting the fire alarm all over again over a video of president obama speaking as a candidate in 2007. in this video, which the right is very excited about tonight but which has been available online since 2007, mr. obama, then a candidate, acknowledges the presence in the room of his former pastor from chicago, reverend jeremiah wright. steve smith was part of the strategic team in 2008 when

law after law after law to limit your right to vote. voter i.d., voter registration, early voting. the republicans want less people voting in our democracy, not more. they're trying to roll back the clock on more than our century's worth of progress in civil rights. now the tide is turning. inch by inch, state by state, we've been reclaiming our rights and turning back the wave of voter suppression. we saw it when the justice department stepped in to block the laws in texas, south carolina and florida. we saw it when governors in six states all but one were democrats, vetoed voter i.d. laws. they were champions of democracy to do so. and we saw it when state and federal courts rejected laws in eight states, including today's major ruling in pennsylvania. this morning a judge blocked pennsylvania's controversial voter i.d. from going into effect before the november election. after it was revealed that hundreds of thousands of voters face the real pocket that they would not be allowed to vote. but now this unjust law will not be in effect on election day in this critical swing state

for democrats in pennsylvania in a hard-fought battle against that state's new voter i.d. law for now. a judge in the past few hours blocked the law from goalkeeper into effect. judge simpson ordered the sat not to enforce the voter i.d. requirement in this year's election, but it will go into full effect next year. opponents of the law say it would hurt voter turnover, especially among minorities and the leeld he who are likely to vote for democrats in that state. it was in june that a top state republican lawmaker predicted the law would help governor romney. >> which is going to allow governor romney to win the state of pennsylvania, done. >> and joining us now, judith brown, diana's co-director of the advancement project, a civil rights organization that filed the lawsuit. thank you for your time. we played that state lawmaker who said if that law was in effect in pennsylvania, he felt that governor romney would win that state, done. the polling shows opposite. nevertheless there was a concern. let's talk about the split decision. the judge is blocking it for now, but what happens next? >>

passes this new voter i.d. law in march. people that didn't have a driver's license, a government-issued photo i.d. could get the michigan state identification card. then the state said that can be used to board airplanes. we need all sorts of forms of identification. then the state changed its mind and said we'll issue a voter i.d. card that's different. only if you can't get the other card. then they changed their mind on that. the judge said i can't be sure. even tugh the state has now cured a lot of these problems, i can't be sure enough people are going to be able to get the right kind of identification to allow this law to go into effect. i'm going to let the state continue to educate people about the need for photo i.d. i'm going to let the state ask for photo i.d. atle positive, but enjoin the part of the law that requires voters to have photo i.d. people wanted it all put on hold. the judge said i don't need to go that far. there is always the possibility the state could go back to the supreme court on this, but begin how skeptical the supreme court was when they looked a

d. law. ruling means that voters in pennsylvania will not have to show a state-approved i.d. to cast ballots on election day. the judge said he was concerned that the law could prevent some people from voting. the stricter voter i.d. laws in four states remain but tougher laws in at least six other states were either shelved or watered down, including those in a few swing states. >>> american airlines now says it knows why passenger seats broke loose causing a pair of emergency landings. they originally called for 8 of its aircraft to be inspected, later ordered 47 aircraft to be checked. they blame the problem on clamps that were not properly installed. they continue a contentious renegotiation over its labor agreements. both the airline and union representing its mechanics deny labor issues played know role in the seat problem. >>> here's your "first look" at some of the other news going on around america today. we are going to begin in minnesota where a wheelchair bound suspect suffered a brutal beating while in police custody. the officer pummeled the intoxicated man and pulled h

and information. i would suggest to him or pose the question he sasz he's followed the law to the letter of the law in terms of paying his taxes, but so do the 47%. so why is it that it's okay for him but it's not okay for them. and i would also love to do a little comparison with how much money he's actually saved versus that 47% gets in that earned income tax credit and let's just compare who's really getting the sweeter deal there. >> i think if there's just one question, i guess i would like to hear if you gave john mccain a dozen or more tax returns in order to be vetted for him, why wouldn't you give us those tax returns to vet you for the possible presidency. that's what i think the audience could follow. >> absolutely. i think that's what a lot of people are thinking. what is the big deal? why not just show us? and i also think it's a bit of malpractice the way his team has miscalculated how this story would play out. >> and paul ryan had to give ten years of his returns to romney. >> right. thank you both for joining me tonight. >> thanks. >> coming up. the republican voter supp

photo i.d. law would give the election to mitt romney are a at least give them pennsylvania. as one republican said, democrats would be too lazy to get a new i.d. card. he's a neat guy. today a state judge delayed implementation of the law until after the election. what a big victory for honesty and i think justice. i guess republicans are going to have to try to win pennsylvania the hard way, by getting the most votes. >>> also, a lot of dnts think or hope that scott brown came on too strong in his debate last night with elizabeth warren. we'll go to the videotape and look very closely. >>> look who has another etch-a-sketch moment. mitt romney now says he won't revoke obama's two-year visas for qualified young illegal immigrants. well, maybe he's seen the polling on latinos lately which are devastating. >>> let me finish with a behind the scenes look at what really happened at the great kennedy/nixon debates. you will love these stories i have dug up. this is "hardball," the place for politics. and cheese add up to 100 calories? your world. ♪ [ whispers ] real bacon... creamy ch

because it is in your state that these laws are made, not in the white house and in congress. >> joy reid gets tonight's last word. thanks for joining me. >>> does romney like you? let's play "hardball." ♪ >>> good evening. i'm chris matthews in washington. on the way to denver. let me start with this brand new nbc/wall street journal poll out tonight. what it shows in addition to an obama leading that's hardening is a deep concern that mitt romney said about that 47% of the country he says can't be counted on to meet its responsibility. it's that part of the country that romney has dismissed as free-loaders, moochers, takers. people, especially veteran families, people retired on social security, regular americans, that is, don't like being dismissed that way, injury added by insult. i'm joined by chuck todd and howard fineman with "the huffington post." the latest poll shows among likely voters the president leads 49% to 46% for romney. that's down net two points from two weeks ago when the president was up by five. to what to you attribute the movement, chuck todd? >> we

if you don't have a driver's license or another i.d. like that but they didn't get away with that new law. a judge ruled this week the new rule about i.d. will not be in effect for this election. but yesterday and this was the scoop, we called the state of pennsylvania to ask some questions about voting there in that state this year. this is what we got. listen to this. it's amazing. remember, legally you can vote even if you don't have an i.d. in pennsylvania in this election. you can. listen. >> thank you for calling the pennsylvania department of state bureau of commissions, elections, and legislation. press one for english. press one for information on pennsylvania's new voter i.d. law. press two for -- >> hello. all pennsylvania voters will be required to show a photo i.d. before voting at a polling place beginning with the november 2012 general election. all photo i.d.s must be current and contain an expiration date unless otherwise noted. >> so that was our scoop last night. our bad scoop. because what you just heard there from the state of pennsylvania is not the law. but it's wha

todd and great howard fineman. >>> republicans in pennsylvania thought their voter i.d. law would give them the election up there in pennsylvania. one republicans said democrats would be too lazy to get an i.d. today a state judge stopped the implementation until after the election. >>> a lot of democrats think or hope that scott brown up in massachusetts came on too strong in his debate last night with elizabeth warren. >>> let who's had another etch-a-sketch moment. mitt romney says he won't revoke the self-deportation for illegal immigrants. >>> let me fin wish a behind the scene looks in what happened in the great kennedy/nixon debates. i've got it for you. this is "hardball," the place for politics. and every day since, we've worked hard to keep it. bp has paid over twenty-three billion dollars to help people and businesses who were affected, and to cover cleanup costs. today, the beaches and gulf are open for everyone to enjoy -- and many areas are reporting their best tourism seasons in years. we've shared what we've learned with governments and across the industry so we can all

for civil rights. "america's unwritten constitution" he's professor of law at the yale law school. president for the alliance of justice system. it is wonderful to have you here. this week, we have two blockbuster political events on the calendar. the first presidential debate and the return of the supreme court to washington. they will hear arguments since the first time on the affordable care act. a start and fresh reminder of the power of the court. the court returns with a docket packed with high profile cases and others likely to be heard. it's strangely almost entirely absent from the presidential campaign. it becomes alarming when you look at the age of the justices. 76, 76, 74, and the oldest is 79 years old. let's not forget she's the fifth vote to uphold a decision in roe v. wade. >> i hope to appoint justices to the supreme court that will follow the law and the constitution. it will be my impression they will reverse row v. wade. >> it's very likely the next president of the united states will appoint several justices to the supreme court. that often is the most lasting legacy of

in pennsylvania's controversial voter i.d. law. we have been waiting for this. nbc's justice correspondent pete williams joins me live. >> the judge said the new voter i.d. law in pennsylvania, the strict new i.d. law cannot go in effect for the general election. there is a chance the state could appeal this to the state's supreme court, but based on what the supreme court said last time they looked at this, it's doubtful they would succeed there. what the judge says here is yes, it's true. the state has said we can fix some of the problems that have come up before, but he says, i question whether there is enough time now to fix these problems. i think there are going to be more problems down the road putting this into effect like we've already seen, he says. he believes that the gap between the photo i.d.'s issued and the estimated need cannot be closed before the election. in other words, he says all the people who would have to get new photo i.d.s, he doubts there is enough time for them to get them. he says i'm not convinced in my predictive judgment there won't be any voter disenfranchisem

are a whole layer of public officials who you vote for who put these laws in place at the state level, who appoint the judges or the judges are elected themselves. you've got to pay attention to off your elections and pay attention down that ballot because it is in your state that these laws are made, not in the white >>> good evening, americans. welcome to "the ed show." 25 hours before the first presidential debate and 35 days until the 2012 election. mitt romney and paul ryan are scrambling. robert gibbs is here tonight to respond. this is "the ed show." let's get to work. >>> you can use your charitable deduction or home mortgage deduction and can fill a that bucket, if you will. >> mitt romney breaks out the golden bucket to save his budget. tonight, obama campaign's senior adviser on mitt romney's fuzzy math. >>> devastating new poll numbers show mitt romney's secret video is crushing his campaign. >> i'll never convince them they should take personal responsibility. >> richard wolffe on how aggressive the president needs e to be on the 47% tape. >>> mitt romney's billiona

of the book, quote, by demanding that roberts kill our entire health care law, the four conservative justices prompted them to look for some kind of middle ground. roberts felt obligated to protect the institutional interests of the court, not just his own philosophical agenda. now, doing that, he uncost merrily went against the conservatives, members of the court. >> he certainly did and count me among those who are shocked and predicted wrongly. justice sees himself as the chief justice, as the embodiment of the court and after citizens united, after bush v. gore to do it a third time in a relatively short period of time would have damaged the court and romney found that middle ground under the taxing power of congress and he upheld the law but don't think that john roberts has suddenly. >> a mentor of mine said, be when he said that, he did not find it, they had the right to deal with interstate commerce. >> right. >> but that they could deal with tax law, most of the civil rights legislation was built around interstate commerce. >> it sure was. >> that is not a good sign for some of the s

a controversial state law that requires identification but stopping it from taking effect until after elections. voters in pennsylvania will be asked for i.d. but will still be able to vote if they don't have it. democrats are touting the ruling as a win for minority and low-income voters who they say might otherwise have been disenfranchised by that law. the raynes claim the law was common sense reform. according to the brennan center for justice which opposes voting law restrictions, 19 states have passed laws or executive actions since 2011 that impact voter turnout. of those, 14 are already in effect, including the one in pennsylvania. >>> now to business. home prices up 4.6% in august from a year ago. the largest year-over-year gain in six years. august marked the sixth consecutive month home prices rose in the united states. let's go to cnbc's jeff cutmore, live in london. >> good morning. you know how the saying goes, if there's a wealth effect in the housing market you get the trickle down. that's what we're talking about in this segment. we've seen this number coming out of core logic.

know a judge just threw it out. >> pennsylvania's strict new voter i.d. law cannot go into effect. >> reporter: sorry, mitt, there's now more pressure on you to nail the debate. >> these debates are an opportunity for each of us to describe the pathway forward for america. >> 10,000 bucks. >> zing. >> i'm speaking. i'm speaking. i'm speaking. >> time for you -- >> you get 30 seconds. this is the way the rules work here. >> zing. >> you know, i don't know how many years i'll release. i'll take a look at what -- what our documents are -- >> zing. >> done. >> not familiar with precisely with exactly what i said but i'll stand by what i said whatever it was. >>> it is just five weeks until election day, and the stakes could not be higher. with both candidates hunkered down in last-minute debate preparations. mitt romney is out in the mile high city carb loading at chipotle today. >> how are you doing? >> are you ready for tomorrow? >> hi there. getting there. how are you? >> getting there. just giving him another six years. indeed, you know what mitt romney's been working hard, maybe

book sellers you could do that. another area of policy is patent law. it seems those are two big parts of american policy that don't get discussed. >> well, my brother and i started a business in the mid-'90s in chicago. we eventually filed for two patents. we got them after our business was shut down. >> sad horns. >> we owned so much in legal fees. if anyone came up against us, we couldn't afford to go after them. >> that's the issue not talked about. not only do you not get the patent, you have to defend the patent. >> what does that mean? there's interesting reporting being done on this and hasn't bubbled up. >> i'm a small business owner, i get a patent. you big business are violating my patent. i have to fight you. you have deep pockets, i don't. who is going to win? >> plus the microenterprises that are patent trolls, they sue people for patent information. >> this is in vermont. it's right. i have been talking to business folks there that have patents and they are getting sued constantly. this is an area where government should provide clarity. if you have a patent it should be

fraud to justify all the laws so they decided to create some themselves. that's one of the sort of terrible down sides of this. if they use this as an excuse to e say, we need these tough voter i.d. laws because you made the essential point. there were two broad points of view on this. one is we're so worried about fraud we're going to make it really hard for a lot of people to vote or that the whole process is supposed to make it easy for people to cast ballots. and that the worst thing they did was to destroy people's voter registration forms. but i don't remember anything like this except acorn. and i think this is where we're going to have to ask our conservative friends. they went nuts over acorn, the progressive group having bad registrations. acorn itself, by the way, had called the attention of voter registrars to the fraud themselves. they disciplined themselves. and yet this was a big scandal and acorn lost a lot of money and had to go out of business. why isn't this the same thing for conservatives given what they did? >> the thing that's amazing to me is acorn was a

. early voting begins in ohio and a pennsylvania court blocks a voter i.d. law. all the details. share your thoughts on facebook and on twitter using the #edshow. >>> thanks for watching "the ed show." mitt romney is running behind in the polls. he needs to bring his a game tomorrow night. does he has have a game? romney has an uphill climb on his hands. no doubt about it. the comments about the 47% has done some real damage to the campaign. >> that infamous piece of tape is being given analysis by the american people. >> that infamous piece of tape is being given analysis by the american people. the latest poll shows just 23% of likely voters say romney's comments made them think more positively about the candidate. 45% said it made them feel more negatively about mitt romney. romney senior adviser ed gillespie said they are expecting the 47% remark to come up in tomorrow's debate and is prepared to answer it and address it. we believe the voters will see and appreciate the fact that what governor romney's talking about would improve the quality of life for 100% of americans. joining

by a republican legislature. the law wasself years ago where for one week registration is still open so you can register at the cuyahoga or franklin county or richland county board of elections. you can register to vote and vote in your name trip to the board of elections. >> i like that. >> it really makes sense. we're urging people to come in this week. people particularly who are least likely to be registered an that's people on college campuses coming back to school, more low income people, and people that might have moved for business reasons, whatever, and need to update their registrations. >> okay. here is the battle going on in the air. you were talking the ground game. the obama campaign is running this ad in ohio to attract voters in coal country. let's take a look at this one. >> seen these new ads where mitt romney says he's a friend of coal country? this is the guy who wants to keep tax breaks for companies that ship american jobs overseas. the same guy who had a swiss bank account and millions in tax havens like bermuda and the caymans. and on coal, well, here is what he said as

-election in wisconsin for congress. state law allows him to do that as well as running for the vice presidency, but what challenges does that present? >> it's just that it can look bad. but i would also point out that joe biden also was running for re-election for the senate in delaware when he was brarack obama's running mate four years ago. so this is a pretty commonplace thing to do. >> all right, matt visor from "the boston globe" and erin mcpike from real clear politics, thank you both. >> thank you. >>> coming up, new polls out today show mitt romney with a double-digit deficit in his running mate's home state. we will give you the latest spread on that. >>> but first, which president obama is preparing to emerge at the next debate? we'll talk to his campaign's vice chairwoman, next. this is msnbc. >>> well, mitt romney is not backing off of his attacks of president obama's economic policies, no matter what the latest jobs report says. he told a florida crowd last night that the president is out of ideas and says wednesday's debate proved that. >> he got a chance to explain his jobs program. how h

of liberty. >> i want to know why romney pays 13% and the tax law says you should pay 35%. it's written right there. top bracket. he makes 13 million bucks last year out of equity and he pays, what, 13%. how come? is that fair? >> well, it's fair because that's how the law is written, chris, with respect to investment. >> the law can be changed. >> well, the law can be changed and that's one of the debates we're going to have during my administration. where we look at the entire tax code and we do find that fairness and that balance in the system to make sure that everyone, to use the president's term, pays their fair share. i've paid my fair share under the law. the law says that, you know, i can take these deductions. i didn't take all the deductions that i was entitled to because of -- >> how come your party voted down to the last woman and man against the buffett rule? against requiring, in principle, that ceos pay the same tax rate as their secretaries? >> because that's just politics. that's not getting to the nub of reforming the tax code. >> it isn't? >> that's just getting out there

the warren act that just took place where there are blatant violations of the law, i wouldn't put anything past this administration. >> you know, these are sitting members of congress. >> yeah. >> alan west won, of course. we know his party. he's very conservative nap said, john mccain. are you surprised by his comments? >> i'm very surprised by his comment. all of those comments, they're not just deeply irresponsible, but without a shred of evidence they are casting doubt about a very important number in our economy. now, if you understand the way the bureau of labor statistics collects data, and i used to work for the department of labor, and i used to work for the executive office of the white house. the firewalls are impenetrable and this is an institution that's been delivering day reports with as much integrity as you can imagine for decade upon decade. never any suggestion of political bias that's had anything close to substantiation. so if you think -- i'm a little bit -- this has gotten under my skin, alex. if you think that there's something going on there, and you don't have a s

they shouldn't bother showing up to vote. in the real world it is a consequence of what people believe the law is in pennsylvania. before the ruling this week, when the law stated that you did need an id to vote. here is what votespa.com told voters. here is what the splash page website greets voters as of earlier this week. that small print after the judge's ruling, after it became clear that you do not need to have an id to vote in pennsylvania, you are welcome at the polling place, here is how they changed the website, you ready? look at that difference. oh yes, there it is. a change in the small print. but the impression is pretty much the same. if you don't have a driver's license don't show up. this is going on in other states. states where they were not able to change the law. where there is still an effort to make people think they need an id to vote. in idahoidaho, here is what the state is distributing. bring your id and vote. you hear about things like this every election year. it is another thing for it to be your state. your state using your tax dollars to miss inform you about yo

law. so that's two pots of federal money sand a tax. so how much of romney's proposal relied on these funds? i asked jonathan gruber the mit who helped design the law. he told me 100%. that was my whole job, saying whether we could fit what he wanted to do within those three funding sources. the legislature ended up adding more money to the law after he proposed it. but the fact remains it remains on federal dollars and on state taxes. but romney's health care proposal doesn't make it easier for other states to do what he did. it makes it almost impossible. he's not offering states access to federal funds for universal coverage. here's what he's doing. >> i would like to take the medicaid dallas dollars and go to state and say you'll get what you got last year, plus inflation, plus 1% and you manage your care for your poor in the way you think best. >> that sounds nice. it's a cut to medicaid of more than $600 billion. that means medicaid will not be able to offer other states the generous deal massachusetts got. so then let's go through these three pots of money. romney isn'

or back voter suppression laws. there's no in between. you're for the changing demographics or you're not. >> you think you can win that group via policy. it feels to me the dream act policy, it gets us focused on as we talk about all these numbers what does it mean for actual people? i'll give you the last word on this. that fiscal clip is looking to us like is that sequestration cn 1.4 million jobs. >> whether it's in the business world or personal world, the amount of money you generate by having these people as raul says, start to pay taxes. it's an enormous boone to this economy to get these people start putting into the government what they are getting out of it. >> it makes all the difference. >> yes. >> it's a good transition on this. in all the news this week, you may have lost what happened on monday when columnist george will said that president obama is likely to be re-elected because america is unwilling to fire its first black president? my dear george letter is next. [ scratching ] you're not using too much are you, hon? ♪ nope. [ female announcer ] charmin ultra soft is

is also facing numerous challengeses. the law states the federal government will only recognize traditional marriages, meaning no federal benefits even where same-sex marriage is legal. >> same-sex couples are denied hundreds of different rights and benefits that are provided to married different sex couples under federal law. >> reporter: on the docket as well, whether to curtail parts of the historic voting rights act of 1965. it mandates federal oversight for states with a history of voting discrimination, when changing any rules for elections. challengers say the law is outdated and unnecessary. a big lineup of cases that could change the landscape of civil rights in america. fr frances coe, nbc news. >>> and now here's a look at some other stories making news early today in america. in maine, a group of strangers spring into action when an elderly woman drove her car into the portland harbor. the band of good samaritans pulled the 84-year-old out of her car moments before it sank. the woman is in stable condition. some of the rescuers had to be treated for hypothermia. >>>

not to correct and not to attack except in this sort of scholarly way like a law professor which left a lot of americans cold. >> what do you think the strategy was? what was his strategy, governor? must have been something his guys were putting into his ears. what were they saying for him they thought he ought to do. >> big lead, make no mistakes, make no mistakes, number one. number two, preserve your likability so don't be too aggressive and don't beat up mitt romney too badly, but it's a confounding strategy. it never works. chris, when have you seen the prevent defense work? never. >> richard nixon tried it, and richard nixon got blown away. anyway, the president seemed to have regained a bit of his fighting spirit today. good for him. here he was at a campaign event right there in denver. >> when i got onto the stage, i met this very spirited fellow who claimed to be mitt romney. but it couldn't have been mitt romney because the real mitt romney has been running around the country for the last year promising $5 trillion in tax cuts to favor the wealthy. the fellow on stage said last n

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i.d. law and struck down by a judge, said there's no way to get voter i.d.s to so many people in time for election day. >> right. this was always i think because as you point out, a narrow timeline, five weeks to the day from the election, but what this does is it does not put that strict voter i.d. law in place for pennsylvania. and i think barring some change or data i've not seen, i'm not convinced pennsylvania was in play even if law had been upheld. i just don't think the votes add up for republicans in pennsylvania. i always say it's like charlie brown, lucy and the football. every time charlie brown tries to kick the football, lucy pulls it away. that's pennsylvania for republicans. look at the numbers and say theoretically we can get there but ultimately can never get there. s there this ruling is an icing or cherry on top. i don't think they would have won the state regardless, less likely today. >> and when you look at the fact that early voting is starting in ohio, iowa, all these states already voting, how does that affect the way the candidates are spending their

this morning for the first time since it's ruling on the universal health care law. their first order of business to ask the justice department to respond to a question from virginia that is challenging that law. meantime the new docket is stack stacked with same sex marriage, affirmative action, and changing to the voting rights act of 1965. pete williams is at the high court for the latest. pete, walk us through this case by case. what we expect from this time they are assembled. >> first of all, the defense of marriage act. this was signed by president clinton and for the purposes of federal law, marriage is only between a man and a woman. that enmoos federal government won't recognize same-sex marriages even in the states where that's legal. that's unusual because states usually define what is a valid marriage. several lower federal courts have said that's unconstitutional discrimination. and the supreme court will probably take this case. i say probably. it's not on the docket yet. but whenever the lower courts strike down an act of congress, the supreme court considers its job t

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and a string of decisions. and the obama administration has said that it glees. it's not defending the law, but a group from the republican congress is defending it. >> they're also going to have to look at california's prop 8, to review that, the amendment to the constitution is that marriage is between a man and a woman. >> they look at that and the lower courts threw that out. they said that under the supreme court's precedence in another case about gay rights, that the california voters could not amend the constitution to exclude same-sex marriage once same-sex marriage had already been offered in california. >> higher education admissions. at the heart of this case, abgait fisher, because fisher says she was denied to the university of texas because she is white. what factors would affect their ruling? >> the court has ruled before that diversity is a compelling government interest. the government in other words has an interest, universities have an interest in compiling diverse classes of students, that diversity helps everyone and that they can look at an applicants's race in making

law. you might remember it. today the court begins a new term and it could bring more high-profile rulings on issues from affirmative action to gay marriages. pete is at the supreme court. well, look. it's going to be some landmark decisions. it seems they're coming down in the way the court is signaling in the cases it took. is that a fair way to interpret all this, pete? >> so far it's taken one case on affirmative action, chuck. it's a big case. a challenge by a white student to the universities consideration of race in rounding out the freshman class. the last time the supreme court looked aet this nine years ago, it upheld the affirmative action. that was written by sandra day o'connor. she's left. alito has taken over. the requirement that in states that have a history of racial discrimination, that they have to get federal permission before they make any changes in their elections. it's widely expected the court will grant that kay. feeble the regulation for same-sex marriage. the court hasn't decided this act yet either. it's with a virtual certainty the court will

the teacher union year after year. i should maybe come out and say my sister-in-law is a union school teacher in milwaukee so i would be in big trouble if i had written anything different about this movie. but for is some reason and i think the reason is the billionaire christian right wing guy who financed this film, this movie is somewhat cleverly packaged, not all that cleverly packaged, kind of trojan horse which wants to be a stand and deliver you know inspirational message for all americans and is trying to convince you it's the teachers union is responsible for everything wrong with american education. >> andrew, the movie focuses on the so-called parent trigger laws which allows parents to sign a petition to essentially take over the school and make dramatic changes if it's failing. that sounds like empowering parents. that doesn't sound like a bad thing. i would say that the notion of allowing parents to take control of a school and have more control over the child's education, doesn't also seem like a fundamentally conservative idea to me. >> it isn't necessarily i suppose a fundame

shockingly hugged a professor at his law school at the time that he was there. we had him saying the apparently horrific dirty word, redistribution and we also have now, interestingly, 1 million copies of this anti-obama conspiracy theory documentary, "dreams from obama's real father" that have been sent out around ohio. and i think, frankly, that there is a significant chunk of the right-wing that is living in an alternate universe in which if the truth about the president really got out and if the mainstream media would just focus on the questions around his place of birth and his secret ideology, there's no way he could be reelected president. you know, i think this actual alternate universe has been challenge for the romney campaign to navigate and impacted their ability to message effectively and focus on snag is going to be appealing to the base but makes sense to a broader elector rat. i would point to their "you didn't build that" narrative. they grabbed part of the president's comments, used it in stumps speeches, used it in ads, it was the theme for the rnc. latest nbc

to continue his law practice. he also acted in american express commercials. oh, wow. i was going to show you a little bit. actually, let's take a little bit of a look. but steve kornacki may know. >> do you know me? i ran for vice president of the united states in '64. so i shouldn't have troublie charging a meal, should i? with this, they treat me as though i had won. >> william miller. >> steve kornacki knows william miller. when we sit around in nerdland and think about this, oh, this is the one that nobody can get. of course, william miller. of course it is. >>> which unsuccessful vp candidate returned to serve as governor for 264 days before stepping down. >> sarah palin. >> very good. although there is a weird gender coherence thing going on. being, it was sarah palin. she remained governor of alaska for almost nine month before becoming the world's biggest facebooker updater. >> there was at least a while in this race a question whether or not she was going to be in the hat for the vp. but no. not this time. okay. next question. which losing vice presidential candidate went on to lose

rights act. the law that people marched and died for. the law that is now under attack by voter i.d. laws. the supreme court may decide whether key revisions should stand nearly five decades later. how do justices rule in these cases will affect millions of americans. who can go to college, who can get married, who can vote. that's why this election is so important. whoever is elected president next month will likely appoint at least just one new justice to the court and it's no mystery what a romney supreme court would look like. here's what he said back in december during the primary debates. >> yes, roberts, thomas, alito, and scalia. >> those are four justices that are the most conservative on the bench. they all ruled against abortion rights, against equal pay, and for unlimited political donation for corporations. yes, this is not about who likes the president or not. sure he's likeable. this is not about all of the side bar issues. this is about what we fundamentally stand

's solve this. >>> just this morning a pennsylvania judge blocked a controversial voter i.d. law from taking effect this november, the same law that won top state republican said would help mitt romney win pennsylvania. most republicans usually don't admit as much, prefrg to frame their efforts around, quote, preventing voter fraud. but in a twist it appears that republicans may be the ones responsible for all the suspicious activity this year. last week the rnc fired a group called strategic allied consulting after accused of submitting fraudulent voter registration forms. if the republican party was shocked, perhaps it shouldn't have been. the firm is owned by a gop operative named nathan stroul sproul whose voter activities were investigated by the justice department though no charges filed. in a sign of people who want to legitimately exercise their right to vote, voters in ohio slept on the street overnight to be the first to cast their ballots when early voting began this morning in that state. joining us now is the host of politics nation, here on msnbc, the one, the only, reve

law rocked the legal world? and that's not all. there are several big cases coming up, big issues that become part of the conversation in the presidential race if they aren't already. pete williams is at the supreme court. all right, pete. let's start with some of the top cases. one by one, affirmative action. >> virtually every college in america that's selected uses affirmative action in some ways to achieve a racially diverse campus. this better prepares students for the working world. upheld nine years ago, but this time it faces a new challenge with the big change on the courts. who wrote that opinion upholding it is gone replaced by samuel alito. the case o comes from the university of texas which allows basically every top academyive performer in a texas high school, guarantees them submission. one factor they look at in rounding out the class, the question is whether they discriminates, it's challenged by a white student who failed to get in. >> we heard a lot during the primaries about gay marriage. tell us about the act. >> signed by president clinton defines marriage be

the reforms he signed into law in massachusetts was something he shied away from in the past. the president could come into office facing 23 million people out of work, an economic crisis at the kitchen table and spent his energy and passion fighting for obama care instead of jobs for the american people. it has killed jobs. the best course for health care is to do what we did in my state, craft a plan that fits the needs of the state, then let's focus on getting the costs down for people rather than raising it with the $2,500 additional premium. >> the irony is we have seen this model work really well, in massachusetts. because governor romney did a good thing, working with democrats in the state to set up what is essentially the identical model and people are covered there. it hasn't destroyed jobs and as a consequence, we now have a system in which we have the opportunity to bring down costs as opposed to leaving millions of people out in the cold. >> mr. romney was the most aggressive of the two and did not mind interrupting the moderator. >> jim, the president began this segment, so i

justices in the mold of the chief justice john roberts. now that he's voted to uphold this law, would you still knowing what we know now, nominate a justice like john roberts? >> well, i certainly wouldn't nominate someone who i knew was going to come out with a decision that i rehemently disagreed with. >> joining me now is jeffrey toobin. voting for the united states senator is the number one reason to vote for them since they confirm these nominations. i just want to show you a moment that just occurred in the massachusetts senate debate tonight between scott brown and elizabeth warren. let's listen to that. >> who's your model supreme court justice? >> let me see here. that's a great question. i think justice scalia is a very good judge. justice kennedy. the i think they're very qualified people there. >> >> miss warren who would be your model supreme court justice. >> i think it would probably be elena kagan. >> jeff toobin, it seemed elizabeth warren got that right the first time. we saw scott brown move from left to right. >> it looked like he was sort of randomly picking names out

child. >> harvard law school versus harvard business school. >> zing. >> michelle wanted to go home with mitt. >> two-minute answer that might have been more effective. liar! >> i like pbs, i love big bird. >> bring down the hammer on sesame street. >> it's been chris man today. i've been in giggle snort mode. >> he has been lazy. >> did you mean to call barack obama lazy. >> yes. >> this spirited fellow who claimed to be mitt romney. the mitt romney we all know, he does not want to be held accountable for the real mitt romney's decisions. >> their campaign strategy was to kill romney, hopefully not literally. >> a tap dance and a two-step. >> mitt, mitt, mitt romney style. >> 47% of the people who will vote for the president no matter what. >> said something that's completely wrong. >> only 30% want the welfare state. >> 7.8%, that politically is great news. >> we're moving forward. >> let's get right to our panel now. we're joined by my colleague toure who is the co-host of "the cycle" and goldie taylor who is in atlanta. good afternoon to both of you. toure we have been talking a

that there are such laws that encourage outsourcing. he's never heard of them. never heard of them never heard of tax breaks company for companies that ship jobs overseas. he said if it's true, he must need a new accountant. now, we know for sure it was not the real mitt romney because he seems to be doing just fine with his current accountant. so you see, the man on stage last night, he does not want to be held accountable for the real mitt romney's decisions and what he's been saying for the last year. and that's because he knows full well that we don't want what he's been selling for the last year. >> here's the point. mitt romney knows americans didn't want what is an unfair plans and that's why a decoy mitt showed up last night. but here's the thing. we're not going to let him get away with it and neither should you. head over to our facebook page where we're showing the details of the romney hypocrisy on issue after issue. he can't hide his true record. he can't attack health coverage and then get away with saying things like this. >> number one, pre-existing conditions are covered under my pla

sign a law that said we will create more jobs that law would have been signed a long time ago. >> well i think he is looking at the fundamentals that are keeping people from hiring like the costs and taxes in obama care. like the over regulation that is stifling small business. like the constant talk of new taxes on small business. i think he is saying we're going to stop that. we're going to stop the over regulation. we're going to stop the taxes. we're going to get this economy jump-started. we're going to open markets in trade in central and south america where we have real opportunities. but on the tax reform, i think it is important that he is pretty bold in his specifics in saying he is going to limit upper income people's ability to get all the deductions. but he is not going to do it on the middle class. i think he has been specific and i think that's just been kind of glossed over. >> let me fill in some blanks here. he has said he is going to get rid of the estate tax though and he has said that he is not going to raise the rate on nonincome from -- on income from dividend an

to an electoral scheme in arizona to allegedly violate election laws by running an independent expenditure campaign on behalf of an attorney general candidate there. i should point out that there have been no charges filed against mr. sproul or any of his companies, but they were concerned enough so that when sproul got hired in just this past june, he acknowledges that he set up a separate company under this name, strategic allied consulting, so that it wouldn't trace back to the other names that he's operated under, lincoln strategy group is the main one, and so it was clear that they were concerned, both he and the rnc, and he says, sproul told me that he did this at the request of the rnc. so there was clearly concern on both parties' part that some of these past controversies would get some attention if it was known that he was conducting this very major nationwide battleground registration effort on behalf of the rnc. >> because the rnc spends something like $3 million, they were operating in seven swing states. how wide do you expect this investigation to go? i mean, do you think th

't pay that rate? >> it's the law. >> we're trying to decide what the law is and as president you get to -- >> congress get the numbers right. >> let me ask you about a foreign policy. we're having a lot of problems in afghanistan. vice president biden had a plan to switch from a counter insurgency plan and go toll an anti terrorism strategy. that limits our casualties and focuses on al qaeda. why didn't you do that, mr. president? it would have saved a lot of lives. >> that overstates the president's position. he's a very sophisticated analyst of that region. i'm filibustering here. but, then, if i were president obama i would say, look, the vice president and i agree that when we came to office, we were losing a war. we were losing it badly and losing it in a way that would have been catastrophic for the region and would have made americans less safe. so i increased the troop presence there, stabilized the situation, got to a point where we would be able to withdraw. >> was biden right? >> biden was one of our advisers. he had input on our decision and -- >> in the fight over whethe

is not the same as $1.4 million increase at least according to the law of mathematics on planet earth. hugo, this is the question, right? >> you're not going to ask me a math question? >> no. i know what the strong suits at this table are. but you know, there is -- we've talked about the wall of obfuscation. we've spent some time in this program talk about style over substance. can mitt romney get away with just saying this stuff? there's an article, cover story in "time" magazine saying the american public is increasingly less and less concerned about facts. >> i guess that's the big we'll see here. i think that the -- as some commentators noted, there's a lot of fodder in there for nice ads for the obama campaign to drive a truck through some of these ambiguities, vaguenesses, misstatements, whatever they are, and i guess we'll see that. i -- you know, again, i think the big thing is how he says it. he seemed nimble on his feet and seemed -- he seemed to believe what he was saying, which is a big part of persuasion. i think you know, i mean when you hear numbers, it does get very confusin

. >> harvard law school versus harvard business school. >> looked like a guy that won the super bowl. >> he looked depressed. he looked anemic. those big ears poking out. he knew that anniversary or not michelle wanted to go home with mitt. >> zing. >> ouch. >> let's get right to our panel now. we're joined by dana mill bank of the "washington post," msnbc contributor, maria teresa kumar, and william cohen, a columnist for the bloomberg view. dana, i have to start with you. in your column today you write that his attacks on the president were respectful but defendant deft, referring to mr. romney. he joined obama deep in the weeds of policy and demonstrated a command of substance. now, dana, you know that i have nothing but a high regard for you, but how much of a command of substance is it for a man to disavow his own policies and not even know that there are 12 million unemployed in this nation and not 23 million? >> well, martin, it takes a real command of policy to be able to -- >> to lie? >> to manipulate it to your advantage. >> you're saying that his command of policies, just so i un

and in pennsylvania, there were concerns about this voter i.d. law the judge has blocked, at least for this general election. what do you make of those two states that you know especially well? >> well, pennsylvania, i think the voter i.d. law had the potential to affect 50, 100,000 votes. that's wiped away now. pretty clear that president obama is going to carry pennsylvania. what the surprise is ohio. always a tossup state. even in the poll today, which showed governor romney narrowing it in virginia and florida. ohio state at eight points f p if ohio folks don't move in the next days after the debate, time for romney folks to cash in ohio. >> you take the media hit for a couple of days there, but ohio, pennsylvania, they represent a type of voter or a group of voters would know romney needs. tries to make up ground on the auto bailouts saying that is not exactly what i meant at the time, i was really in line with what played out there, we know it was not but the type of voter or the group of voters in ohio that we have talked so much about, white males in particular, working class, middle class

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